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  • # 90196

Hi, looking for a bit of advise.   I have taken on a small limited company to do the year end accounts - he uses a office at home to run his business. The house he has is rented.  This is is second year trading and in his first year he was advised that he can claim £3776 a year for his home office( this was a set figure).  I was under the impression you could claim a percentage due to the number of room in his house ie he has 8 room so can claim one eight of his rent, electricy etc.  Any help on this would be great.  

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  • # 90211

Hi,


Yes thats the way i understand it too. I have read that you need to exclude the kitchen and bathroom as rooms though. So he could claim approximately one sixth of the cost of bills such as rent to landlord, council tax i believe, gas, electricity, house insurance if he doesnt have separate business insurance. I have read you cant use water rates but others do. I would check out the HMRC web site as they have a section devoted to this subject and give examples too which are useful. You can also claim a portion of the house repair costs but as he rents this might not apply and decorating costs. There is another way to do it and that is by floor area of the property. You must bare in mind though and this is where it gets tricky, that it is also the length of time spent doing his work in the room. Does he use it for 4 hours a day or 10 and how many days a week? It could be argued that as it is set up as an office it is set up 24 hours a day in which case he could claim the full one sixth. Capital gains tax may come into it if it is classed as 100% use, some keep a tv in to get around this and watch it an hour in the evenings! There is an allowance of i think £4 per week that HMRC allow employees to claim without any proof of expenses, but this is for employees not sole traders etc. Check HMRC site though for correct information.

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  • # 90212

Wendy,


Just looking at the figure of £3776 per year claim it could be possible depending on where he lived and cost of rent. If we multiply the figure by 6 to get yearly cost it is £22,656 which is £1,888 per month! As it is rented he could have his office set up and claim the full one sixth without worrying about capital gains (I am not an expert on capital gains or if this would have any implications on the landlord etc). Therefore if his rent and allowable utility bills came to £1,888 then it would be allowed.


Gary   

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  • # 90213

Bear in mind that your client is not self employed, he's an employee.  HMRC allows employees who work from home to claim £4 per week.  The alternative is to rent a part of your home to the company.  This comes with it's own issues though.

Kris 

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  • # 90214

Hi Gary - thanks for your reply.  He only pays a total of £1090 on rent, rates & Electric. He was total by a previous accountant that there was a set allowance of £3776 because he rented.  I had never heard of it .  You have now but my mind at rest - he was wrongly advised.  Thanks again.

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  • # 90215

kjmccullochsaid:

“Bear in mind that your client is not self employed, he's an employee.  HMRC allows employees who work from home to claim £4 per week.  The alternative is to rent a part of your home to the company.  This comes with it's own issues though.

Kris ”


Hi Kris

Thanks for your reply.  So are you saying that its different because its a Limited Company and  that we can't claim a percentage of the household bills.

Wendy 

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  • # 90216

Hi Wendy,


Kris is right, he will be classed as an employee of his Ltd company. Maybe he has been advised to rent out part of his home to the company. Not sure how that works though. 


Kris i tried to follow your link that was mentioned in another similar thread about Using home as an office but couldnt find it! Looked an your web site and tried typing it in separately, not sure if there is a problem with it.    

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  • # 90217

Hi Wendy,

Has your client got permission from the Landlord and (if applicable) the Mortgage Lender? This may be forbidden in the terms and clauses. Just a thought.

Adam  

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  • # 90218

Have a read of the appropriate HMRC documentation and make a decision for yourself.  Here's a starting point: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/eim32780.htm

the biggest surprise may be what you can and cant claim.  There's not mortgage interest, no rent, no rates, no water charges and no insurance.

Kris

Edited at 16 Apr 2013 10:32 AM GMT

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  • # 90220

Ok thanks for all your help on this.  Wendy

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  • # 90221

Goes on a bit mind and gets more complicated and confusing the more you read.

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